Anders Andersen

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  Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?

  by paradiseseeker in

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  this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.

  first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?

  some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.

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  Anders Andersen

  Don't you think some people are just better off within the org?

  No.

  • They may suffer from anxiety, loss of identity, loss of structure or whatever when exiting the cult, but all that can be addressed by education, therapy, etc.

  • The JW mind disease is contagious. Any JW who exits the cult is one less recruiter that can ruin someone else's life by drawing them into the cult.
  • If a JW leaves others may be triggered into waking up as well.

  • Any JW who exits the cult is one less money source to keep the cult alive.

  • Any JW who exits the cult is one less seat filler. Less filled seats equals less 'encouragement' and a lower morale for those who stay in.

  So even if there is no apparent improvement for some individual, their exit may likely prove beneficial for society in general, for people both in and outside the cult.

  Therefore I'll likely try to wake up anyone I can, regardless of their individual benefits.
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  Important spiritual food

  by moreconfusedthanever in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  todays watchtower study is all about singing complete with instructions on how to sing.,............

  "but we all have the responsibility to sing praises to jehovah.

  so hold your songbook up high, lift your head, and sing with enthusiasm!".

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  Anders Andersen

  They seem to be suggesting that Jehovah is hard of hearing.

  Well.....they know he is. Everybody knows that. Or is prayer useless for different reasons?

  
  
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  FINALLY sexual abuse among Dutch JW gets attention on national TV! 80 reports received at Reclaimed Voices reporting centre during 1st month

  by redpilltwice in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  those who have been aware and informed have seen this coming.. of course it's just the beginning.

  80 reports seems to be only the tip of the iceberg.

  reclaimed voices is expecting hundreds of cases more.

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  Anders Andersen

  As far as I know my wife hadn't heard about it in the congregation, but a RV threw it at her....

  And that was some weeks ago. Since then we have seen more coverage.

  @George, what region are you located? Of course feel free to keep that to yourself :-)

  I'm in Groningen.
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  FINALLY sexual abuse among Dutch JW gets attention on national TV! 80 reports received at Reclaimed Voices reporting centre during 1st month

  by redpilltwice in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  those who have been aware and informed have seen this coming.. of course it's just the beginning.

  80 reports seems to be only the tip of the iceberg.

  reclaimed voices is expecting hundreds of cases more.

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  Anders Andersen

  Quite a lot of news sites and newspapers reporting on this:

  (all links to sites in Dutch language)

  • Trouw (frontpage of the site!)
  • AD.nl
    
  • Telegraaf.nl
    
  • NU.nl
  • Nederlands Dagblad (frontpage)
  • Reformatorisch Dagblad
    
  • Dagblad van het Noorden (1)
  • Dagblad van het Noorden (2)

  Then there are probably more regional and local newspapers reporting on this both online and in print.
  

  Reclaimed Voices and the media do an excellent job to get all this out in the spotlights!
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  FINALLY sexual abuse among Dutch JW gets attention on national TV! 80 reports received at Reclaimed Voices reporting centre during 1st month

  by redpilltwice in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  those who have been aware and informed have seen this coming.. of course it's just the beginning.

  80 reports seems to be only the tip of the iceberg.

  reclaimed voices is expecting hundreds of cases more.

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  Anders Andersen

  Thanks for sharing.
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  Flat earth vs round earth

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

  what are people's thoughts on this?.

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  Anders Andersen

  Imagine just how much money the most vocal Flat Earth liars make on their books, YouTube videos and lectures.

  It's just another religion, just without gods or structure. A lot of money flows from gullible believers to devious priests of ignorance.
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  St Petersburg Assembly Hall to be given to Russian scientists

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med.

  (the following article is translated using google translate).

  the building selected in "jehovah's witnesses" in st. petersburg will be given to scientistsdecember 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42. in a building selected from a banned organization in russia, "jehovah's witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures.

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  The ruling annulled a 17-year-old contract between the Witnesses’ national headquarters in Russia and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. If upheld on appeal, the ruling opens the way for Russian authorities to seize the property and other Witness properties under foreign ownership in Russia.

  Interesting. Apparently the branch office building was owned by Watchtower Pennsylvania, and CCJW Russia then leased it (back)?

  Nice way to siphon funds out of a country and protect your real estate portfolio.
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now available:.

  2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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  Anders Andersen

  For those interested in statistics like these, I also refer to the file created by 88JM containing numbers per country for 1981 to 2016:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250532/25-years-compiled-yearbook-statistics?page=7
  
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  2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES

  by darkspilver in

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  2. friends

  now available:.

  2017 service year report worldwide: table with individually listed lands and countries.

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  I will be looking at editing and re-posting an updated table - I want to see first if WT are going to edit their own data with regard to Russia, Guinea-Bissau and Ireland befor I rush out another version

  If you publish as Google Docs spreadsheet, you can update while the document is online. It's also easier for others to then copy-pasted the data in their own data files....

  And of course, thank you very much for your efforts (but I said that on Reddit already too ;-)

  
  
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  What Do You Do if the Household Does Not Celebrate?

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. friends

  it is christmas morning ....the weather outside looks cold grey and dismal (typical britain in winter ) the house is quiet as my wife gets on with something.

  .... the street is silent, as dead as the grave.

  the tv is full of the purile nonsense that fills airtime this time of year .

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  Anders Andersen

  @Phoebe,

  Yes, many of us experience what second generation immigrants experience as well: we are no longer accepted by our heritage culture (nor do we want to accept all of that culture), but we don't fit in our new culture either. We're in limbo.